There are a line under the small s. Your email address will not be published. Where could I find out more about its history? Any info is appreciated. Measuring about 3 1/8 inches in length, it it somewhat resembles a brass shotgun shell. Ready to fire signaling ammo for your 37mm launcher? Were they integrated into Infantry companies or were they considered artillery? The M1916 37mm gun was developed by the French and used primarily by French and American forces in WWI for destroying machine gun emplacements. Shell is steel (checked w/a magnet) Comments. Sounds like it took four men to carry the gun, probably at least 3/4 more to carry ammunition? Please consider, Shooting the MAC 1950 in Tactical Competition, Shooting the RSC-1918 and RSC-1917 French Autoloaders. Condition. Available in any file format including FBX, OBJ, MAX, 3DS, C4D Although there was some consideration had been given to replacing the machine guns with more a powerful anti-tank gun, the situation only began to change after the outbreak of the Spanish Civil War. First up is a British 1918 manual on identifying different types of ammunition by projectile, case, and packaging markings. It was mainly meant to be employed against enemy Machine Guns and entrenched positions, using pin-point accurate fire against loop holes etc. I inherited the shell and no one knows anything about it. It was fairly good at this under fluid, mobile conditions, but inferior to mortars for static trench warfare. But that didn’t prevent it from being pretty widely used by both American and French units, and other nations after WWI. Mine says 37-85 PDPs 43.10.14 share. It was designed for both direct and indirect fire, and intended primarily for destroying machine gun emplacements. Thanks for whatever info. I have a 30mm round that says A 0.Co.1897 on the bottom of the projectile, and on the side its has N.C.T. German Cd Manual Powder & Shell Ammunition,fuze Navy Pulver Und Munition 1888. Embed Image. and it says a.p wich is armour piercing. I’ve sent emails to Aberdeen and no responses. The shell has: P.E.&M. (defused) you may have. Enter your email address to receive notifications of new posts by email. © 2020 Forgotten Weapons.Site developed by Cardinal Acres Web Development. 2nd dated 1915, is 10cm & marked 18 pr11 as in2, inverted v 82 below it, think maybe British. I suppose there are no collectors for this stuff? I read an account by Gen. George Patton, a young officer in WWI, about firing these in training. German Color Gun Artillery Shell Cd Fuzes Ww1 - English Ordnance Book Rare The head is still in white metal with no corrosion or browning. Hey I found the same shell 37-85 PDPs but different numbers 124 and 216 what’s the difference and are they valuable? 37mm screw apart reloadable MLR shells make it easy to build your own flare, smoke, and bang rounds for outdoor fun. I’m guessing he never actually say a sign with the town’s name and misheard their location. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. with 2 anchors of each side of it, and underneath that there is a symbol that kind of looks like an A, but I have come to found that’s not what its is, any help on helping me identify this would be greatly appreciated, thanks. One 37mm shell known some refer to as a Pom Pom shell. Find FRENCH WW1 37mm HE ROUND - 1916 in the medium calibre21mm-40mm category on Quick Fire Auctions I believe that is a dummy training round form an M4 37mm cannon, which would have been mounted in a P39 Airacobra. Some were used in the Philippines Campaign in 1941-42 due to shortages of the 37mm M3. Cheers M.Turner. Origin is Magdeburg in northern Germany, part of the old DDR (East Germany) Hi I have a shell MARZ 1916 – MAGDEBURG SP252 408 POLTE Epic model nad texture! The primer carries it’s own markings. I believe the PDP stands for the factory, “Pouderies de Paris”, and 37-85 means 37mm model of 1885. Share Image. 69 Krupp protze truck l2h143 met 37mm pak 36 anti-tank kanon zie ook de andere The primer hasn’t been struck, so I don’t know if it is inert or not. The solids were ineffective, and were later replaced with an iron shell filled with black powder. Hi, I have a large shell, and a round here. I can’t find a town in France called Benney. I’m concerned as you were if the shell has an explosive projectile. Head stamp AML01090-44-B 4114-33 WPS Co. Was this used as an anti tank catridge? Enjoy what you read on Forgotten Weapons? 37mm GUN The US still had a bunch of these in supply at the beginning of WWII, though they were largely used for sub-caliber training. Would appreciate any info on manufacturer or what this might have been used in / for. Commentdocument.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "aacb60aaae598271af1384fa5dc98f30" );document.getElementById("af77928f82").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. © 2020 Forgotten Weapons.Site developed by Cardinal Acres Web Development. Embed Thumb. 18 37 P69 (or P88) S* Auction:8347604 Probably from WW1 - 37mm Cannon shell casing - looks fired - Nice Condition - Not sure what Country - cert funds or ck/hold & 4.00 S&H 3D 37mm models for download, files in 3ds, max, c4d, maya, blend, obj, fbx with low poly, animated, rigged, game, and VR options. Initially it was provided with an HE shell and a solid steel projectile. Original WW I Era French Navy Pom Pom, 37 mm Artillery Round with 37mm, US shell produced by the Wheeling Mould and Foundry CoAmlot, Model OF-1916, Lot … The Hotchkiss Model 1916 cannon was a very interesting American troop support weapon during WWI. Enjoy what you read on Forgotten Weapons? I’m looking to learn more about the 37mm gun model of 1916 empty shell casing I have. It says AMLOT 1090. SP252 408 the type and serial number! The brass case has: AM LOT 1075-75-B, 37mm GUN MODEL OF 1916, lot 1075-105 PEM Co. Also carries the US Ordnance Corps. One of the items is a 37mm explosive round that was made inert and converted to an oil lamp. Overall good condition. Wwi German Inflation Currency, 20,000,000 Marks, Wiemar 1920s, Gift. They’re both imprinted with ‘souvenir villers-bretonneux’ and dated 1914-1919. I also have an inert 37-85 artillery shell. Commander in the Texas N.G. He described it as a moment filled with reluctance. DO you think this means – it was made in 1917, 37 mm, German manufacture. This Tamiya manufactured product contains four army figures I’m also a little concerned as to if this is an actual live round! Ammunition was of two types initially, a 1-pound solid steel shell and a high explosive round. C 1.17.7 I was just wandering about it, It is three inches long and 7/16th wide. Mechanically, the M1916 used a rotating breechblock and hydraulic recoil absorber coupled with a spring recuperator. Thanks. (The charachters on both the shell and fuse are read left to right while the shell is pointed away from you). Description. Any and all help will be gladly accepted. That was the plan when France introduced the model 1916 37mm gun for infantry support. 37mm gun model 0F1916 WPSCo. Marol Sep 30 2012. Any ideas? Our online store here at Exotic Firearms has signaling ammunition, smoke shell ammo, and much more. 2)on the fuse, the charachters T,45217 are across the side This item has been viewed 166 times. Cheers Doug, Munich, Polte is the manufacturer- I have part of a shell on which the following has been stamped: 37-85 PDPs 272 9 17 and a symbol resembling an old-fashioned badminton birdie. While theoretically sound, these devices popular in American design circles at that time merely add complication and work, and study of a number of photogr… In order to stability of the weapon in action, firing segments were attached to the axle; these were lowered to the ground and the gun pulled across them so that the wheels were lifted from contact with the ground and the gun was then supported on the segments and the trail-end spades. It was used with both the fixed tripod above and also with a couple types of wheeled carriage. the other is weird looking mk 3 a2B1 lot e.c.a.s o.a.s. Polte Armaturen- und Maschinenfabrik OHG in Magdeburg Its design was centered on providing heavy-caliber fire support at the infantry level, being man-portable to an extent and relying on a 37x94Rmm (1.45") projectile. And from what I gather mines 1914 and also it hasn’t been fired, but it is empty, I have a shell 37-85 The solid round was found to be largely ineffective, and replaced with a bursting shell of cast iron and filled with black powder. This is a plastic model kit of a 1/35 Scale German 3.7Cm Anti-Tank Gun (PAK 35/36). Hello Blake, I was just reading your comment on the WW 1 shell you have and was wondering what response you received. Co Having done some more digging, I can partly answer my own question: the M1924 was a Browning design using a long-recoil action. During the First World War, the U.S. acquired a number of these guns, which they designated 37mm M1916. This used as an anti tank catridge you ’ d like to see a picture please and... 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